Vader Raider, 13-0, Consistently Wins Games 15.0

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Why no force speed?

First of all, I don't have it. Second of all, it doesn't really need it in my opinion.

I have been doing very well with a slightly unconventional Vader Raider, which shares some similarities with your deck. In particular, I also avoid Sith Holocron and force powers to focus on efficient melee upgrades. But the upgrades I use are quite different to the ones you have selected.

Vibroknife is a no brainer, but instead of Gaffi Stick, Lightsaber Pike and Vibroknucklers I have Force Training, Makashi Training and Kylo Ren's Lightsaber. Force Training was added because it essentially has two resource sides and I occasionally found myself needing a resource. Kylo Ren's Lightsaber is still incredibly destructive if you get it into play, although I frequently find that I don't get it out and win comfortably at any rate.

I had originally intended to use Fast Hands, but ended up switching to Force Speed. This choice opens me up briefly to a bit of manipulation, but it also works better with the modified sides on my upgrades. It also essentially turns Use The Force into another Force Strike (of which I'd definitely have two copies of no matter what else is in any Vader-focused deck).

Like yours, my event suite is a mix of control and damage enablers, although mine is more aggro with Lightsaber Throw and one copy of No Mercy, as well as Backup Muscle as my only support. I originally had Rise Again in my list, but I honestly never had money for it, so I cut it a fair while ago.

The final significant difference is Moisture Farm - Tatooine as my battlefield ... as I've said repeatedly, resources can be tight.

Anyway, I wish you continued good luck with your build.

@DreadFool you make a very good point, I may have to try some of that. Thanks.

Im going to definetly have to try this deck out. I've played in many tournaments but and I think this is probably one of the best Vader Raider teams out there. I like how you have an equal amount of control and aggressive cards.

@Zachjohn Thanks for the complement. You should try it out, I really like it.

I would add Sith Holocron.

@Carlm I don't have any blue abilities in this deck so it's useless. Thanks though

@DreadFool Personally I think Lure of Power completes the list a bit better than Force Training. You can use the modified sides to augment resources or whatever you happen to need at the moment. I feel like most of your comments are solid, though.

I like Fast Hands in this deck for one particular reason - it helps make use of Vader's . Landing a 2 with Fast Hands just crushes your opponent's turn. Force Speed doesn't do that.

@Foz That is so true! Especially if you go first.

@Foz I rate the focus side on Force Training and find the extra blank on Lure of Power unappealing, but you make a valid point. Similarly, I see the benefits of Fast Hands (Fast Hands on Jabba the Hutt - The Great and Mighty is just about my favourite thing to do in this game), but I really like the feel of using Use The Force as third and fourth copies of Force Strike. Even rerolling and potentially resolving damage uninterrupted by die manipulation is great. In all honesty, I'm frequently looking to reroll or use Force Strike (sometimes after using Manipulate) on the 2 disrupt side. I think it's a 'season to taste' thing, but I haven't regretted Force Speed at this stage.

I edited this deck a little.

I Added in:

Makashi Training

Maz's Castle - Takodana

Lightsaber Throw x2

I Took out:

Echo Base - Hoth

Rise Again

Anger x2

Does anybody think this is better or worse?

I personally don't like using any battlefield that will benefit my opponent as much as it would benefit me. With that in mind I'd use Secluded beach for protection against ranged decks.

That said, Maz's castle could be protection from mill!

@J1mbo I agree with that (which is why I used Echo Base - Hoth because of my Vibroknifes) but Maz's Castle - Takodana helps me get rid of my whole hand Instead of discarding it.

I would try to either replace the vibroknucklers or force pike with Lightsaber for the redeploy ability.

@Hartmanator I like how Vibroknucklers can he increased with a and I think Lightsaber Pike has better sides that Lightsaber. But you are right about the redeploy so I might add one Lightsaber and take out one Lightsaber Pike.

Thanks for the input.

So I eddited this a little more. I tried playing with a Force Speed and realized with Fast Hands, it's very powerful. So I wanted to add a Force Speed. I was thinking about taking out a Gaffi Stick. I think this would be better.

I would add:

Force Speed

I would take out:

Gaffi Stick

Does anybody think this would work pretty well?

If you have any force speed, probably use two

@Andfritz30Secluded Beach is a great include in Vader Raider, as you have very very few sides showing ranged damage. I'd suggest you check that one out.

This deck has only tuskens 1 rngd dmg which was why i suggest secluded beach. its another potential mitigation against Palp, unkar et al, nines, red hero and jango.

@J1mbo @Wigg I agree with both of you but I really like Maz's Castle - Takodana to help get out some of those good cards like Vibroknife.

I would add two Force Speeds to use them with Fast Hands. You could replace Cheat for them.

@Crw I think I might try that. Thanks

I also feel like you can do better than One-Quarter Portion. Isolation is the obvious choice. Feel Your Anger or Doubt could also be better. Several people mentioned resources can be tight - that's a feature of the game overall, nearly any deck could use more resources. That makes the drawback on One-Quarter Portion a terrible one; one resource can be a really big deal.